[Xapian-discuss] Administrivia: Problems caused by Yahoo addresses
Rob Nagler
nagler at bivio.biz
Sat Sep 12 15:28:41 BST 2015
Hi Eric,
Fwiw, mailman has a 'cleanse-dkim' handler which strips DKIM-related
> headers entirely. Maybe that's enough to get mails through...
>
This is insufficient. You need to rewrite the From. Looks like Mailman has
this feature now:
http://wiki.list.org/DEV/DMARC
Olly, you'll need to upgrade to 2.1.16 to be able to turn this on.
Unfortunately, I suspect things like this Yahoo change are sign of
> things to come with big mail providers continuing to make life harder
> for independent admins.
>
Yahoo's change was harsh, and made everybody's list management difficult,
even for Google Groups.
It was relatively easy for us to rewrite the header so that's what we did.
AOL has similar problems, btw. We currently rewrite emails from the
following domains: google.com ebay.com paypal.com yahoo.com aol.com. FYI,
the code that does this is here:
https://github.com/biviosoftware/perl-Bivio/blob/master/Mail/Outgoing.pm#L387
(Trying not hijack and promote my own project, here, but then again
> it is the reason I started using Xapian :)
>
> Things like this Yahoo change is one of the reasons I chose to take an
> "archives first" approach to mailing lists with public-inbox. Email
> gets dumped into a git repository whic can get mirrored and synced
> efficiently. Readers can subscribe via git://, Atom feed or follow
> along on a Xapian-backed website. I'll hopefully have an NNTP
> server up in a week or so.
>
Neat idea. Thanks for sharing. :)
>
> Having these options will hopefully avoid problems of push-based SMTP
> delivery. Unfortunately most mailing list participants are still used
> to getting email pushed to them.
>
IMHO: Email is still the killer app. :) What did you use to read and reply
to this? Good archival software is helpful especially with Xapian, but
we've found that the more you can do via a user's MUA, the more they'll
like your software. :)
Cheers,
Rob
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